hey everyone, glad to be chiming in again to wcbb..
Pharmaceutical grade stuff speaks for itself with regards to sterility and quality control and it is the number 1 choice of product to use for most users of aas; not taken into account its availability and price..
Now UGL's are a different story all together. These aas are more available. They often are made in kitchens or makeshift laboratories across the world. The aas aren't that complicated to make or put together provided they are produced with safety and due care along with the knowledge.
Once process has always interested me in the subculture of the underground lab's. 1) The make the stuff. 2)The oils are filtered and ready. 3)Next stage is putting into vials.
I understand that the oils at this stage are basically sterile after an UGL would filter them by which ever method (device) they choose.
Here is the part, i have done one or two experiments myself and i was careful to draw up my liquid into large syringes and using bass' patented method of the cawlking gun to input the sterile liquid into vials for my own personal use.. This would be the most safest method i would think not being far from an expert. The liquid barely makes contact with the air for only the amount of time that takes you to unscrew the filter and suck up your liquid. No contaminants in the air, no sterility issues with sterilizing vials and materials. Pumping into sterile vials. Done...
Now a UGL sells their product to the public. The vials you get are always capped. By this method they must purchase their vials and materials unsterilized and you place your trust in their methods of sterilization before filling in the 'sterile liquid' into the vial which is going to be capped and sealed until it arrives at its end user where you break the seal and stick in your pin.
Question is, what do they do, or how do they
1) Sterilize these vials, stoppers, and materials
2) Input the liquid into the vials with due care
3) How long is the liquid and materials exposed to the air before capping
Pharmaceutical grade stuff speaks for itself with regards to sterility and quality control and it is the number 1 choice of product to use for most users of aas; not taken into account its availability and price..
Now UGL's are a different story all together. These aas are more available. They often are made in kitchens or makeshift laboratories across the world. The aas aren't that complicated to make or put together provided they are produced with safety and due care along with the knowledge.
Once process has always interested me in the subculture of the underground lab's. 1) The make the stuff. 2)The oils are filtered and ready. 3)Next stage is putting into vials.
I understand that the oils at this stage are basically sterile after an UGL would filter them by which ever method (device) they choose.
Here is the part, i have done one or two experiments myself and i was careful to draw up my liquid into large syringes and using bass' patented method of the cawlking gun to input the sterile liquid into vials for my own personal use.. This would be the most safest method i would think not being far from an expert. The liquid barely makes contact with the air for only the amount of time that takes you to unscrew the filter and suck up your liquid. No contaminants in the air, no sterility issues with sterilizing vials and materials. Pumping into sterile vials. Done...
Now a UGL sells their product to the public. The vials you get are always capped. By this method they must purchase their vials and materials unsterilized and you place your trust in their methods of sterilization before filling in the 'sterile liquid' into the vial which is going to be capped and sealed until it arrives at its end user where you break the seal and stick in your pin.
Question is, what do they do, or how do they
1) Sterilize these vials, stoppers, and materials
2) Input the liquid into the vials with due care
3) How long is the liquid and materials exposed to the air before capping
via World Class Bodybuilding Forum http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.com/forums/f21/ugl-safety-137729/
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